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#169 PGY3 and Beyond with Alia Chisty MD

August 28, 2019 | By

Search and secure your first job. Part of ACP’s IMpower series for residents.

Search and secure your first job after residency. Dr. Alia Chisty (Penn State) returns to school us on surviving the PGY3 and beyond, part of ACP’s IMpower series. Topics: finding mentors, how to plan ahead as an intern and PGY2, master the interview day, avoid common pitfalls and confidently enter your early career. We’re joined by Curbsider and recent graduate Justin Berk MD, MPH, MBA who shares his experiences from the job trail.

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For meeting notes, a discussion guide and facilitators guide visit visit IMpower: Catalyzing your professional future.

Check out the previous episode Becoming a PGY2 with Drs. Abby Spencer and Shreya Trivedi.

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Written and Produced by: Paul Williams MD, FACP and Alia Chisty MD, MS 

Cover Art: Matthew Watto MD, FACP

Hosts: Stuart Brigham MD; Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP

Editor: Matthew Watto MD, FACP

Guests: Alia Chisty MD, MS; Justin Berk MD, MPH, MBA


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Time Stamps – PGY3 and Beyond

  • 00:00 Pun
  • 01:19 Intro, guest bio, disclaimer
  • 04:00 Guest one-liner
  • 05:35 Picks of the week*: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (film), Visit Baltimore (city)!, Read with your kids!, Wolfie the Bunny (book), Tribe: Homecoming and Belonging (book) by Sebastian Junger
  • 10:20 Intern year agenda: Get the lay of the land; Identify potential mentors
  • 19:26 How to be a great mentee: Bring concrete questions, Ask how your mentor likes to operate
  • 22:08 PGY2 and career development: Decide if you want to do fellowship. Explore electives in potential career paths (e.g. meded), A word of caution about signing a contract as a PGY2
  • 26:30 PGY3: Polish your CV. Collect references. Reach out to your network. Email potential employers.
  • 31:00 Resources for finding a career: ACP and NEJM website’s have career centers. Check LinkedIn and Doximity. Ask your program director and previous graduates from your program.
  • 35:10 Recruiters: Should you use them? What are the pitfalls?
  • 37:45 Dr. Chisty recaps the job application timeline
  • 40:20 Interviewing: Phone interviews are a common first step; Make an elevator pitch; How to nail the interview day
  • 45:28 How geographic needs affect the application process
  • 47:52 Stuart is champing at the bit
  • 49:04 The pie analogy and FTEs
  • 52:36 Promotion tracks
  • 55:26 More on the interview day
  • 59:26 Making the emotional transition from PGY3 to early career; Pretending rounds; Imposter Syndrome; Article by Murthy, Dhaliwal on Early Careers of Master Clinicians
  • 67:13 You are competent. There’s a committee that’s been monitoring your growth
  • 68:28 Take home points: Use your network. Imposter syndrome is normal. You are competent and people believe in you. Reflect on the behaviors of your favorite educators.
  • 72:18 Your tribe
The Curbsiders 169 IMpower: PGY3 and Beyond with Alia Chisty MD. Search and secure your dream job.
The Curbsiders 169 IMpower: PGY3 and Beyond with Alia Chisty MD. Search and secure your dream job.

PGY3 and Beyond – Goals

Listeners will learn how to plan for transitioning out of residency into the next phase of their careers.

Learning objectives

After listening to this episode listeners will…

  1. Describe the timeline for the job search
  2. Identify the key components of applying for a job 
  3. Implement strategies for personally approaching the job hunt

  1. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (film) 
  2. Visit Baltimore (city)!
  3. Read with your kids!
  4. Wolfie the Bunny (book)
  5. Tribe: Homecoming and Belonging (book) by Sebastian Junger
  6. Article by Murthy, Dhaliwal on Early Careers of Master Clinicians

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Drs. Chisty and Berk report no relevant financial disclosures. The Curbsiders report no relevant financial disclosures. 


Chisty A, Williams PN, Berk JL, Brigham SK, Watto MF. “#169 PGY3 and Beyond with Alia Chisty MD”. The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast. August 28, 2019.

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